Comments on: The Digg Paradox: How Digg Creates the Problem It Solves http://www.techconsumer.com/2008/04/09/the-digg-paradox-how-digg-creates-the-problem-it-solves/ Sun, 03 Jul 2011 10:20:26 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Digg is Yahoo Buzz in Disguise: Size Is the New Gatekeeper | Bob Caswell http://www.techconsumer.com/2008/04/09/the-digg-paradox-how-digg-creates-the-problem-it-solves/comment-page-1/#comment-7755 Digg is Yahoo Buzz in Disguise: Size Is the New Gatekeeper | Bob Caswell Wed, 20 Aug 2008 15:10:52 +0000 http://www.techconsumer.com/2008/04/09/the-digg-paradox-how-digg-creates-the-problem-it-solves/#comment-7755 [...] founders discussing priorities and progress and how Digg is just a game. Second, we discussed the Digg paradox and how getting rid of the editor/gatekeeper just creates new [...] [...] founders discussing priorities and progress and how Digg is just a game. Second, we discussed the Digg paradox and how getting rid of the editor/gatekeeper just creates new [...]

]]> By: I’ve Given Up on Digg & Delicious But Am Hooked on Reddit | Bob Caswell http://www.techconsumer.com/2008/04/09/the-digg-paradox-how-digg-creates-the-problem-it-solves/comment-page-1/#comment-4404 I’ve Given Up on Digg & Delicious But Am Hooked on Reddit | Bob Caswell Thu, 17 Jul 2008 06:47:04 +0000 http://www.techconsumer.com/2008/04/09/the-digg-paradox-how-digg-creates-the-problem-it-solves/#comment-4404 [...] have covered Digg issues plenty before. The site’s problems are easy to sum up in one sentence: It’s [...] [...] have covered Digg issues plenty before. The site’s problems are easy to sum up in one sentence: It’s [...]

]]> By: I’ve Given Up on Digg & Delicious But Am Hooked on Reddit | TechConsumer http://www.techconsumer.com/2008/04/09/the-digg-paradox-how-digg-creates-the-problem-it-solves/comment-page-1/#comment-3935 I’ve Given Up on Digg & Delicious But Am Hooked on Reddit | TechConsumer Mon, 09 Jun 2008 14:36:07 +0000 http://www.techconsumer.com/2008/04/09/the-digg-paradox-how-digg-creates-the-problem-it-solves/#comment-3935 [...] have covered Digg issues plenty before. The site’s problems are easy to sum up in one sentence: It’s [...] [...] have covered Digg issues plenty before. The site’s problems are easy to sum up in one sentence: It’s [...]

]]> By: Digg is Yahoo Buzz in Disguise: Size Is the New Gatekeeper | TechConsumer http://www.techconsumer.com/2008/04/09/the-digg-paradox-how-digg-creates-the-problem-it-solves/comment-page-1/#comment-3675 Digg is Yahoo Buzz in Disguise: Size Is the New Gatekeeper | TechConsumer Fri, 11 Apr 2008 15:20:55 +0000 http://www.techconsumer.com/2008/04/09/the-digg-paradox-how-digg-creates-the-problem-it-solves/#comment-3675 [...] founders discussing priorities and progress and how Digg is just a game. Second, we discussed the Digg paradox and how getting rid of the editor/gatekeeper just creates new [...] [...] founders discussing priorities and progress and how Digg is just a game. Second, we discussed the Digg paradox and how getting rid of the editor/gatekeeper just creates new [...]

]]> By: Eric Filipkowski http://www.techconsumer.com/2008/04/09/the-digg-paradox-how-digg-creates-the-problem-it-solves/comment-page-1/#comment-3673 Eric Filipkowski Thu, 10 Apr 2008 18:49:09 +0000 http://www.techconsumer.com/2008/04/09/the-digg-paradox-how-digg-creates-the-problem-it-solves/#comment-3673 All valid points, I recently wrote about my own frustrations with Digg. I've gotten a few stories on the front page and last night had one that I felt was clearly meant to be taken as fiction "buried" and all but removed from the site due to accusations of it being "fake". I thought it would be another way to promote something that was generally well-received on its own, but the whole thing has really soured me on Digg. Bring on the gatekeepers, I say. All valid points, I recently wrote about my own frustrations with Digg. I’ve gotten a few stories on the front page and last night had one that I felt was clearly meant to be taken as fiction “buried” and all but removed from the site due to accusations of it being “fake”. I thought it would be another way to promote something that was generally well-received on its own, but the whole thing has really soured me on Digg. Bring on the gatekeepers, I say.

]]> By: Rami Taibah http://www.techconsumer.com/2008/04/09/the-digg-paradox-how-digg-creates-the-problem-it-solves/comment-page-1/#comment-3672 Rami Taibah Thu, 10 Apr 2008 12:00:19 +0000 http://www.techconsumer.com/2008/04/09/the-digg-paradox-how-digg-creates-the-problem-it-solves/#comment-3672 A lot of these issues have been solved by Mixx.com. Mixx already has a breaking news funtion, a related news function, and I think that the dupe detector is much better. A lot of these issues have been solved by Mixx.com. Mixx already has a breaking news funtion, a related news function, and I think that the dupe detector is much better.

]]> By: Zaibatsu http://www.techconsumer.com/2008/04/09/the-digg-paradox-how-digg-creates-the-problem-it-solves/comment-page-1/#comment-3671 Zaibatsu Thu, 10 Apr 2008 09:53:49 +0000 http://www.techconsumer.com/2008/04/09/the-digg-paradox-how-digg-creates-the-problem-it-solves/#comment-3671 The problem I have with digg now is I just can't push content that I care about. I love politics, science and tech stories. Well, thanks to the algorithm, if it's not a cute photo, a sports story or an offbeat comedy piece I can't hit the FP. What's worse is I think the digg community or at least the (digg algorithm / ghost moderators) heavy handled approach with us power users, forces us to play to a greater audience. So I go for the known, sites that people will digg up, because I know if I post a story about some great new solar powered concept from a little know blog, even with my weight on digg, it just won't make it to the FP *sigh*. The FP matters, less and less to me, I really enjoy the diversity and content that I can find in upcoming everyday, but the real passionate users in science, politics and tech are dropping like flies. Hopefully the new and upcoming vanguard of new diggers can carry the torch and bring an influx of great stories... not the 20 hour stale crap that we're forced to endure. Check my submissions, on only stuff that hits is crap, I'll admit to it. But the stuff I care about dies on the vine, so I give the algorithm the crap that it so loves. Oh and to all the people who think Andy and I make money of of digg, well... type Andy Sorcini into google... he works for Disney and doesn't need the money and well I'm just plain well off, I do this for fun. Oh if you mention our podcast we have 1 sponsor $250/month. that's dinner for 2 nights for me... God sorry to sound like an arrogant bastard, but I ate when people think we're on the take. Sorry peeps, love all you diggers, even the ones that hate me, keep me in check, tell me when I post crap. Oh I'll even put money where my mouth is, a free iphone to anyone that can show that I make money off of digg. Damn, I think I had too much wine tonight, lol. Peace Z The problem I have with digg now is I just can’t push content that I care about. I love politics, science and tech stories.

Well, thanks to the algorithm, if it’s not a cute photo, a sports story or an offbeat comedy piece I can’t hit the FP.

What’s worse is I think the digg community or at least the (digg algorithm / ghost moderators) heavy handled approach with us power users, forces us to play to a greater audience.

So I go for the known, sites that people will digg up, because I know if I post a story about some great new solar powered concept from a little know blog, even with my weight on digg, it just won’t make it to the FP *sigh*.

The FP matters, less and less to me, I really enjoy the diversity and content that I can find in upcoming everyday, but the real passionate users in science, politics and tech are dropping like flies.

Hopefully the new and upcoming vanguard of new diggers can carry the torch and bring an influx of great stories… not the 20 hour stale crap that we’re forced to endure. Check my submissions, on only stuff that hits is crap, I’ll admit to it. But the stuff I care about dies on the vine, so I give the algorithm the crap that it so loves.

Oh and to all the people who think Andy and I make money of of digg, well… type Andy Sorcini into google… he works for Disney and doesn’t need the money and well I’m just plain well off, I do this for fun. Oh if you mention our podcast we have 1 sponsor $250/month. that’s dinner for 2 nights for me…

God sorry to sound like an arrogant bastard, but I ate when people think we’re on the take.

Sorry peeps, love all you diggers, even the ones that hate me, keep me in check, tell me when I post crap.

Oh I’ll even put money where my mouth is, a free iphone to anyone that can show that I make money off of digg.

Damn, I think I had too much wine tonight, lol.

Peace

Z

]]> By: Bob Caswell http://www.techconsumer.com/2008/04/09/the-digg-paradox-how-digg-creates-the-problem-it-solves/comment-page-1/#comment-3661 Bob Caswell Wed, 09 Apr 2008 15:44:44 +0000 http://www.techconsumer.com/2008/04/09/the-digg-paradox-how-digg-creates-the-problem-it-solves/#comment-3661 Vlad, Your point of a site with huge traffic being favored by Digg doesn't really contradict any of the points being made here. In fact, it's just one more issue. You're just pointing to traffic rather than people as another form of the "gatekeeper." Some of us remember, back in the day, when Digg was just as much about undiscovered content as it was the mainstream. But as Paul pointed out, Digg has an overabundance of stories from select sources (Ars Technica, Engadget, etc.). Vlad,

Your point of a site with huge traffic being favored by Digg doesn’t really contradict any of the points being made here. In fact, it’s just one more issue. You’re just pointing to traffic rather than people as another form of the “gatekeeper.”

Some of us remember, back in the day, when Digg was just as much about undiscovered content as it was the mainstream. But as Paul pointed out, Digg has an overabundance of stories from select sources (Ars Technica, Engadget, etc.).

]]> By: Brian http://www.techconsumer.com/2008/04/09/the-digg-paradox-how-digg-creates-the-problem-it-solves/comment-page-1/#comment-3659 Brian Wed, 09 Apr 2008 15:02:11 +0000 http://www.techconsumer.com/2008/04/09/the-digg-paradox-how-digg-creates-the-problem-it-solves/#comment-3659 This article has already been written about 13,000 times. Anyone who has used Digg on a regular basis knows all of this stuff. In fact you left out how some of the top users turned into crybabies and threatened to boycott the site when some changes were made to the algorithm, threatening to make it harder for their submissions to make it on to the front page, and thereby cutting into their revenue. Someone should slap them with a shovel. This article has already been written about 13,000 times. Anyone who has used Digg on a regular basis knows all of this stuff. In fact you left out how some of the top users turned into crybabies and threatened to boycott the site when some changes were made to the algorithm, threatening to make it harder for their submissions to make it on to the front page, and thereby cutting into their revenue. Someone should slap them with a shovel.

]]> By: Paul Ellis http://www.techconsumer.com/2008/04/09/the-digg-paradox-how-digg-creates-the-problem-it-solves/comment-page-1/#comment-3658 Paul Ellis Wed, 09 Apr 2008 14:19:47 +0000 http://www.techconsumer.com/2008/04/09/the-digg-paradox-how-digg-creates-the-problem-it-solves/#comment-3658 I'm sorry, but Digg <u>is</u> crap. Total mob rule masquerading as a "power to the people" kind of phenomena. There are way too many stories from certain select sources (Ars, Engadget, Gizmodo) that don't prominently display a "digg" button. They seem completely unwilling to make an honest assessment of what needs to change with digg too. They could have developed a system to deal with duplicates (maybe like Techmeme a bit?) but no they needed to remake the comment system to heavily use AJAX just so it was more Web 2.0ish. They implement a friends system with "shouts" but then punish you if your friends regularly digg your stuff. I used to like Digg when it was new, but I'm back to Slashdot, and Techmeme too. I’m sorry, but Digg is crap. Total mob rule masquerading as a “power to the people” kind of phenomena. There are way too many stories from certain select sources (Ars, Engadget, Gizmodo) that don’t prominently display a “digg” button.

They seem completely unwilling to make an honest assessment of what needs to change with digg too. They could have developed a system to deal with duplicates (maybe like Techmeme a bit?) but no they needed to remake the comment system to heavily use AJAX just so it was more Web 2.0ish. They implement a friends system with “shouts” but then punish you if your friends regularly digg your stuff.

I used to like Digg when it was new, but I’m back to Slashdot, and Techmeme too.

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