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	<title>Comments on: PC vs Console Gaming: Which Is Actually More Expensive?</title>
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		<title>By: True Story</title>
		<link>http://www.techconsumer.com/2008/02/22/pc-vs-console-gaming-which-is-actually-more-expensive/comment-page-3/#comment-10783</link>
		<dc:creator>True Story</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Jul 2011 10:20:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Unfortunately, I have to agree with the troll masses that hold regular demonstrations at your doorstep. Your premises are sketchy at best :(



For me, PC gaming is simple adding a USD$70 graphics card to my regular PC (HD4670). The HD4670 is roughly as powerful as the GPU of the XBOX 360.



Anyway, there seems to be a general consensus that the XBOX and PC are worlds apart. But actually, the XBOX 360 is basically a cheap but streamlined PC with a cutdown OS. You can approximate it as a X1900 + duo core CPU + shared 512MB.


But note the structure of the processor is different in its execution and structure to traditional CPUs.
( =&gt; http://arstechnica.com/old/content/2005/06/xbox360-2.ars)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unfortunately, I have to agree with the troll masses that hold regular demonstrations at your doorstep. Your premises are sketchy at best <img src='http://www.techconsumer.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>For me, PC gaming is simple adding a USD$70 graphics card to my regular PC (HD4670). The HD4670 is roughly as powerful as the GPU of the XBOX 360.</p>
<p>Anyway, there seems to be a general consensus that the XBOX and PC are worlds apart. But actually, the XBOX 360 is basically a cheap but streamlined PC with a cutdown OS. You can approximate it as a X1900 + duo core CPU + shared 512MB.</p>
<p>But note the structure of the processor is different in its execution and structure to traditional CPUs.<br />
( =&gt; <a href="http://arstechnica.com/old/content/2005/06/xbox360-2.ars" rel="nofollow">http://arstechnica.com/old/content/2005/06/xbox360-2.ars</a>)</p>
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		<title>By: Atavax</title>
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		<dc:creator>Atavax</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jul 2010 07:49:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Its kinda stupid to use a specific scenario and then claim that PC gaming is more expensive. there are plenty of scenario&#039;s where PC gaming is cheaper. 

when i got my first PC, i graduated highschool and had a $1k budget from parents for a computer for college. with that money, i built a computer now over 2 years old and haven&#039;t had to sink any extra money into it yet. The extra cost of owning a Gaming PC over a regular one has been zero. I still have no problem running new games that come out.  And in another year or two when i eventually upgrade my gaming PC, not only will i not have to buy a new monitor, keyboard, or mouse; but i won&#039;t have to buy a case or a psu either; those objects cost me roughly $400 of the $1k i spent on my gaming pc; so it should only cost me $600 when i upgrade. 

also, 4 gamers per year is fairly conservative imo... i am a fairly casual gamer compared to a lot of people i know, and i probably get at least 5 games a year. a lot of people get like 10 or more. 

There&#039;s also the question of how much gaming would you do on your pc if you primarily gamed on your console? you would probably at the very least play some flash games if not MMO&#039;s. inwhich case, you would most likely also spend money on upgrading your pc occasionally.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Its kinda stupid to use a specific scenario and then claim that PC gaming is more expensive. there are plenty of scenario&#8217;s where PC gaming is cheaper. </p>
<p>when i got my first PC, i graduated highschool and had a $1k budget from parents for a computer for college. with that money, i built a computer now over 2 years old and haven&#8217;t had to sink any extra money into it yet. The extra cost of owning a Gaming PC over a regular one has been zero. I still have no problem running new games that come out.  And in another year or two when i eventually upgrade my gaming PC, not only will i not have to buy a new monitor, keyboard, or mouse; but i won&#8217;t have to buy a case or a psu either; those objects cost me roughly $400 of the $1k i spent on my gaming pc; so it should only cost me $600 when i upgrade. </p>
<p>also, 4 gamers per year is fairly conservative imo&#8230; i am a fairly casual gamer compared to a lot of people i know, and i probably get at least 5 games a year. a lot of people get like 10 or more. </p>
<p>There&#8217;s also the question of how much gaming would you do on your pc if you primarily gamed on your console? you would probably at the very least play some flash games if not MMO&#8217;s. inwhich case, you would most likely also spend money on upgrading your pc occasionally.</p>
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		<title>By: ThisTestisBogus</title>
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		<dc:creator>ThisTestisBogus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Mar 2010 16:51:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What was the author thinking? LOL LOL LOL
All I can say is this.. I bought a LAPTOP Dell XPS M1530 with a GeForce 8600M for $600 and had it for 4 years before it broke (I have had in Afghanistan with me where it acquired a decent amount of dust and drops and everything else) and I was still able to play COD4:MW at best settings!!! So your &quot;facts&quot; that I need to upgrade stuff every years or so and that life of a pc is short is totally bogus.  Only hard core gamers who think that they need to replace crap as son as possible do that.  You can easily have the same equipment for 4-5 years, and then all you really need to change is graphic card :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What was the author thinking? LOL LOL LOL<br />
All I can say is this.. I bought a LAPTOP Dell XPS M1530 with a GeForce 8600M for $600 and had it for 4 years before it broke (I have had in Afghanistan with me where it acquired a decent amount of dust and drops and everything else) and I was still able to play COD4:MW at best settings!!! So your &#8220;facts&#8221; that I need to upgrade stuff every years or so and that life of a pc is short is totally bogus.  Only hard core gamers who think that they need to replace crap as son as possible do that.  You can easily have the same equipment for 4-5 years, and then all you really need to change is graphic card <img src='http://www.techconsumer.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: SJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>SJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Feb 2010 22:11:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Raid 1 in a gaming rig? Try understanding what something is BEFORE claiming something needs it.

Raid 1 is mirroring, it is for live data security. It actually means a quite small performance drop in writes (depending how decent your raid card is, and I am betting this moron was using the mobo raid.) It also wastes half of your physical disc space. Low end servers use raid 1, not gaming rigs.

Only the most expensive and powerful gaming PCs use raid, and that is raid0 (striping, meaning much faster read speeds.) Raid should not be in this comparison at all, as any gaming rig expensive enough to include raid will be so far beyond the Xbox360&#039;s performance that it would be like comparing a push bike with a saturn 5 rocket.

The rest of this comparison is balls too, but the raid part made me chuckle.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Raid 1 in a gaming rig? Try understanding what something is BEFORE claiming something needs it.</p>
<p>Raid 1 is mirroring, it is for live data security. It actually means a quite small performance drop in writes (depending how decent your raid card is, and I am betting this moron was using the mobo raid.) It also wastes half of your physical disc space. Low end servers use raid 1, not gaming rigs.</p>
<p>Only the most expensive and powerful gaming PCs use raid, and that is raid0 (striping, meaning much faster read speeds.) Raid should not be in this comparison at all, as any gaming rig expensive enough to include raid will be so far beyond the Xbox360&#8242;s performance that it would be like comparing a push bike with a saturn 5 rocket.</p>
<p>The rest of this comparison is balls too, but the raid part made me chuckle.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jan 2010 00:04:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;ve got the NPV discount rate wrong. You just have to take the interest rate you can earn by putting your money on a savings account...

It goes like this:

100 dollar today is just worth 100 dollar.
if a bank gives you 2% interest per year and you put the 100 dollar in the bank you will have 100 dollar plus 2 dollar (2% on the 100) which adds up to 102 dollar

That&#039;s what the NPV method is about. A 25% interest rate or whatever it was is a ridiculous high amount! If not you should definitely tell which bank or shares you have your money on :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;ve got the NPV discount rate wrong. You just have to take the interest rate you can earn by putting your money on a savings account&#8230;</p>
<p>It goes like this:</p>
<p>100 dollar today is just worth 100 dollar.<br />
if a bank gives you 2% interest per year and you put the 100 dollar in the bank you will have 100 dollar plus 2 dollar (2% on the 100) which adds up to 102 dollar</p>
<p>That&#8217;s what the NPV method is about. A 25% interest rate or whatever it was is a ridiculous high amount! If not you should definitely tell which bank or shares you have your money on <img src='http://www.techconsumer.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: you forget</title>
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		<dc:creator>you forget</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Jan 2010 12:18:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>one more thing if you buy a gaming rig and use it for work


TAX RIGHT OFF MWHAHAHA</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>one more thing if you buy a gaming rig and use it for work</p>
<p>TAX RIGHT OFF MWHAHAHA</p>
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		<title>By: you forget</title>
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		<dc:creator>you forget</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Jan 2010 12:12:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i think you forget you need a pc for more than just gaming..

1: work center
2: media center
3: you can connect it to multiple tv&#039;s and run video off you pc unto them
4: gaming
5: education needs
6: internet browsing
7: data storage
....i can go on forever</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i think you forget you need a pc for more than just gaming..</p>
<p>1: work center<br />
2: media center<br />
3: you can connect it to multiple tv&#8217;s and run video off you pc unto them<br />
4: gaming<br />
5: education needs<br />
6: internet browsing<br />
7: data storage<br />
&#8230;.i can go on forever</p>
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		<title>By: you forget</title>
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		<dc:creator>you forget</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Jan 2010 12:02:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>you forget the simple fact you need a pc anyways so theres 500 USD you need to spend ANYWAYS</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you forget the simple fact you need a pc anyways so theres 500 USD you need to spend ANYWAYS</p>
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		<title>By: Nerfsmurf</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nerfsmurf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 16:05:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Computers&gt;Console

The computer I built from scratch has a 6 month old video card, core 2 duo, 3.5 gig ram, and alot of other good stuff. It costed me less then 600 dollars, I can run just about ANY game at 60 frames/sec. The ONLY game that i cant run so well is Crysis. And the ONLY console game that has better graphics then I have on my PC is Gran Turismo 5. The only game I have that comes close to GT5 is GRID (graphic wise). But if GT5 was on PC it would be cool. And im running on a card better then the consoles have, but its old, Imagine the quality with a 4870 x2, the fastest card on the market. (but thats a luxary to upgrade, not a required expense)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Computers&gt;Console</p>
<p>The computer I built from scratch has a 6 month old video card, core 2 duo, 3.5 gig ram, and alot of other good stuff. It costed me less then 600 dollars, I can run just about ANY game at 60 frames/sec. The ONLY game that i cant run so well is Crysis. And the ONLY console game that has better graphics then I have on my PC is Gran Turismo 5. The only game I have that comes close to GT5 is GRID (graphic wise). But if GT5 was on PC it would be cool. And im running on a card better then the consoles have, but its old, Imagine the quality with a 4870 x2, the fastest card on the market. (but thats a luxary to upgrade, not a required expense)</p>
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		<title>By: matt</title>
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		<dc:creator>matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Sep 2008 16:44:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Computer gaming is not for everyone.  Every time someone gets a weird error sigh (so common with computers :/) that they go to google and type the error sigh. I had to do that several times to play games.  I own a gamecube (for resident evil games and an xbox 360 to play resident evil 5 and some others.  The only reason i own a computer is to do my work and play some games.  Since more computers are used for business and not for gaming, then the pc cannot be considered a gaming platform.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Computer gaming is not for everyone.  Every time someone gets a weird error sigh (so common with computers :/) that they go to google and type the error sigh. I had to do that several times to play games.  I own a gamecube (for resident evil games and an xbox 360 to play resident evil 5 and some others.  The only reason i own a computer is to do my work and play some games.  Since more computers are used for business and not for gaming, then the pc cannot be considered a gaming platform.</p>
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